Posted by Jeanne on January 31, 2000 at 19:04:36:
By the way,
Each speaker gets 2 or 2/12 hours for his or her presentation.
Posted by Jeanne on January 31, 2000 at 19:04:36:
By the way,
Each speaker gets 2 or 2/12 hours for his or her presentation.
Is the CreOnline Convention worth it? - Posted by Ben Buckley
Posted by Ben Buckley on January 31, 2000 at 14:25:34:
Hey everyone my name is Ben and I am 21 years old and I know that I want to be my own boss. Real estate seems like the way to go. So I am thinking of attending the convention in Atlanta. I was wondering if any of you wmet last year and if you thought it was worth it. The reason I ask this is because if I go I am going to pay for it with money from some stocks and I live in Seattle so the cost of a plane ticket will cost as much as the convention. Well anyway I would really appreciate any feed back.
Thanks, Ben Buckley
Re: Is the CreOnline Convention worth it? - Posted by Jim IL
Posted by Jim IL on February 18, 2000 at 04:15:08:
The list of comments from past attendees that JP gave you, take a look at it.
Then, do a search on the posts of many of us.
We went, and you can see the progress we all made after going.
I am not rich, “Yet”, and frankly have made more mistakes than I care to admit, but, I STILL made money last year.
Thank goodness I did not make the mistake to pass on the convention.
I have made friends of people in this business who are REAL DEAL makers.
We talk almost daily online and off, all about the business of REI.
It is contagious.
Now, my favorite topic is REI, and it simply bores my old friends.
I unfortunatley had some circumstances whipe me out financially. (darn ex-wife anyway), but you know what?
I found a way to pay for the convention this year.
I simply could not miss it.
I went last year as a VERY NEW person, with little to no experience and education.
This year, even thought the speakers will be the same, I am armed with some experience and a ton of education.
I asked myself before booking the trip, "How will this benefit me to go again?"
The answer was easy, I am now more prepared, and can ask more specific questions based on what I have already done.
Had I not gone last year, I would not be so prepared to throw my REI into overdrive and make the REAL money.
And I’ll tell you what.
My first deal made me $10k+, and the convention, all the materials I bought, and misc money spent, were all covered and then some from that ONE DEAL!!
So, the idea of not attending is what will cost you.
Go ahead and attend.
I’ll see you there.
I’ll even let you buy me a beer Friday night.
See how nice those of us with some experience are?
You would make a BIG mistake not to go. Here’s why… - Posted by HR
Posted by HR on February 06, 2000 at 09:30:22:
I went last year, and I would like to share with you why it would be a HUGE mistake for you not to attend.
First, pick up this great book for $15: Real Estate Investing by McLean and Eldred, Second edition. It’s got all the angles on rei under one cover. A must. While you are at it, I just picked up another book that is phenomenol: 5 Magic Paths to Making a Fortune in Real Estate by Lumley. The magic paths are flips, rehabs, l/o, options, and owner financing. It’s got much of the same info as many of the courses I’ve bought but only costs $15. OK, enuf on prep reading.
These books will explain why rei is such a great business. I don’t want to waste space right now and get into that, but you should understand why this business as a business is the best. It is worth your time, study, energy, and money because it will return to you tenfold.
Next, you are starting our EARLY! I wish I had gotten started at your age. Im not some old man (35). But if I had started in my early 20s, no exaggeration I’d be a millionaire by now. No bs.
To make that much, though, you have to know what you are doing. The convention will introduce you to the top names in the field.
You can’t go to school to learn about rei. Unless you have a Piper or Phil Fernandez or Millie as a parent, you also won’t get anyone to teach it to you. You see, this biz is like an underground niche biz. Yes, that means there are some hucksters and snake oil salesmen that also sell their rei wares as bona fide real material, when in fact they are junk (ie Hicks, etc). I have bought a few of the courses here, though, and without exception I have been pleased with every one. Each has helped me make money and each has paid for itself many times over. And now I have that knowledge and forms for use forever.
At the convention, you will get ideas from the speakers that you can use, and you will get to buy the courses cheap. It is an invaluable investment! I spent about $2500 last year on materials, and I made $60,000 since the convention. Was it worth it?
Every business, Ben, takes a lot of capital to get started. Try buying a franchise, or just opening any biz. REI is so great because it can be run from home with low startup and operating expenses. You do have to know what you are doing, though, and that will justifiably cost you. The cost is nothing, though, compared to what you will learn or what would cost you for other businesses.
Finally, these speakers are top notch. These are the best of the best. And their 2.5 hour talks will be loaded with info.
I just went to a Peter Lowe seminar last month for $49. He had a line up of 6 speakers who spoke for 30-60 minutes, and each sold info afterwards. I though the event sucked. Few of the speakers gave any real info; it was all teasers for their courses. I did buy a good course on sales skills (which is why I went), but I won’t go to another one again.
The creonline convention is totally different. These speakers give info you can use! Plus they sell their materials cheap.
I know Im rambling and repeating myself, but Im about to go out the door any moment, and I want to say this to you before I go. Sorry it’s so rambling.
I haven’t even begun to mention the great networking and support systems you can build from the event!
Go Ben! Do whatever you have to do to go! It really is that great. This is the real deal. Can you afford to miss it?
Is freedom worth it? - Posted by jack z.
Posted by jack z. on February 01, 2000 at 15:17:20:
I feel compelled by a sense of justice to answer your question about the convention. Actually, rather than answer it directly first, let me pose to you a rhetorical question:
Would it be “worth it” to you to spend $1,000 or so if you were to find out not only THAT you could be financially free but also HOW to go about accomplishing it?
If you’re waivering on the answer, don’t go. Save your money and your stocks.
But if you yearn to have total control of your life, you’re a darn fool if you don’t go.
I went last year, and it was life changing. And I don’t mean that lightly. Literally, it was life changing. It was the most exciting three days I’ve ever spent. And it was the gift to myself that keeps on giving.
Am I rich yet? Nope, not by a long shot. But would I rather be in anyone else’s shoes? No way. After last year, and what I learned from being there, I know I’m on track to getting to where I want to be. It’s not an easy road to hoe, but I can see the light at the end of the tunnel, and I know I’m on track. It’s just a matter of perseverance.
Even having the sense that you’re headed in the right direction is priceless. And that’s what I got from the convention. I would not have gotten it had I not gone. I thank God for that every day.
Get yourself there. You will not be sorry.
Re: Is the CreOnline Convention worth it? - Posted by David Alexander
Posted by David Alexander on January 31, 2000 at 18:51:38:
Only if you want to change your life. This convention isnt a Rah, Rah deal. It’s a real life teaching where people are going to go and learn. If your just beginning it’s the perfect place to start. You can learn by trial and error or you can go and see peoples different cookie cutter ways of doing deals. Can the speakers tell you everything in 90 minutes, No way.
Will you learn enough to get going absolutely.
Admittedly if you’ve been before you’ll hear some of the same things you’ve heard before. But, you know what that’s the single way everyone learns… by repetition. And it’s better to learn by hearing what others do and what mistakes they make than making your own.
You’ll be surrounding by the extremely experienced, semi experienced and newbies alike. These will be people that you’ll call friends throughout life if you continue to do deals.
How about the single most important thing.
Like it or not you become who your friends are, hang around wealthy folks with wealthy mindsets and by sheer osmosis it’ll sink in eventually.
And the reverse is true stay at home dont make new friends, dont hang with people who do RE, who dont have the mindset your after and you end up asking this same question next year, should I go.
All said and done how much will it cost you, $1000 or so. Regardless you’ll recover that much many easy if you stick to doing the Deals. Bottom line is, it’s your life and money, but when opportunity sticks it’s head up we all just have to learn to tune in and see them.
Comments From People Who Have Been There - Posted by J.P. Vaughan
Posted by J.P. Vaughan on January 31, 2000 at 16:25:35:
As far as I can tell, Mark (SD) has never attended one
of our Conventions, so I cannot imagine why he feels
qualified to respond to your post. Here are some written
comments from people who actually attended our Convention
“Adjectives: Highly educational, motivational, opportunity-laden, exciting,
stimulating, life-changing, a LOT of FUN!!! Basically an exceptional
convention reflecting an exceptional website.”
“Best convention/seminar I have ever gone to. I feel that this was the best
group of speakers I have seen in one place.”
“I was very pleased with the VAST amount of good information presented.
Every single person I met seemed like the nicest person I ever met. The
networking alone made this the best event I ever attended.”
“Some of the most productive days I’ve ever spent. Great educational and
networking opportunity. Worth every cent.”
“This is, by far, the most valuable convention I have ever attended. Real
world information that can be applied quickly. Unparalleled learning
opportunities from true players.”
–William G. Reau
“Absolutely unbelievable and most educational. It really was all I could have
wanted and more than I expected.”
–Debra L. Kurcsics
“Fantastic!! Coming to this conference is the second best business decision I
have ever made. The best decision was quitting my regular job three years
ago to do real estate full time. Information provided here will help me get to
the next level and beyond. I’ve just filled my tool box with knowledge and
“Unbelievably valuable! I’m a newbie - gave me focus, hope and a template
“I thought it was fantastic. It was well worth my time and money.”
“Great group of people. I was nervous about meeting new people but I have
never before felt so welcome.”
“There was a really nice variety of speakers and info. It was mind boggling.
(That’s a good thing!) Everyone was so helpful and willing to share/exchange
“The convention was incredible. I met a ton of people who are or have been
in my situation, which creates a very large support group for me to turn to.
The speakers were very informative and the entire convention has motivated
me to prepare for large-scale success.”
– Chuck Quon
“Stunning! Absolutely Stunning. I go away from this seminar equipped to take
control of my financial future. I feel as if I have been given an MBA of the
–Neil M. Sowersby
“Amazing! I have learned an enormous amount of information and cannot wait
to get home and implement my knowledge and ideas.”
“Great convention. Well worth the price. Great networking. Many ideas.”
–James V. Davis
“It was a steal at $500. There were so many new ideas presented to me I will
have a hard time implementing them all.”
“Very well coordinated and thought out, with excellent speakers and
programs. The ENERGY level of the entire event was absolutely incredible.
It was, without a doubt, the most informative, inspiring and just downright fun
seminar I’ve ever had the pleasure to attend! I’m walking on sunshine!”
“Superb. The speakers were informative and enthusiastic. The opportunities
to network and pick the brains of the experts. Knowledgeable and friendly
crowd. Outstanding deal - mega bang for the buck.”
“Remarkable amount of information presented in an orderly, structured and
“There are just not enough words in ‘Webster’s’ to express how powerful and
personally rewarding the convention experience was to me.”
“In a word, Excellent. Top notch speakers, good info, fun atmosphere and
nice accommodations. I loved every minute of it.”
“Very interesting and well worth the trip. Looking forward to next year.”
“It was great. I learned so much. It was the best educational and networking
opportunity that has come along in a long time. Thank you.”
“Very impressive. The convention was full of useful information. It was great
to meet new friends who have the same ‘drive’ and enthusiasm I have for this
–Marvin D. Washington, Jr.
“Excellent convention. I didn’t think you could top last year. But you did. I
can’t imagine how much more I will earn from the knowledge and contacts.”
“Wonderful! Amazed at the amount of information available both through the
workshops and informal discussions.”
"I am very pleased. The weekend lived up to the words “jam-packed.”
"Great networking opportunity, great speakers, great learning opportunity,
“The convention was unbelievable, and I’m at a loss about how to best
describe it. The speakers were outstanding, I’m glad they had materials for
sale, and they were reasonably priced. I got tons of new ideas I can apply
immediately for profit. The best thing about the convention, though, was the
community. It’s more than networking; it’s a community of people from across
the world who share the same vision and values…The $500 price is a joke.
I’d pay 10 times that amount, just for the people. All the speakers and
information are just a bonus.”
“What a rush! Absolutely incredible. Great Program - Great Speakers -
“Very well organized. The schedule was kept right on time. Logistically, it
was virtually flawless. Psychologically, it was EXPLOSIVE! I feel, after
listening to the speakers and the participants who have actually done it, like a
big, dense ball of potential ready to burst into actual success…”
“Fantastic, energetic and inspirational, full of educational opportunities. New
ideas and creativity were abounding, which gives me the drive to succeed.”
“The convention was great. The speakers were ALL excellent! What
impressed me the most was the overall professionalism of the overall
conference. Hat’s off to a great, informative convention.”
“Once again, a great convention! A terrific stable of speakers, awesome
networking opportunities and ‘mind power’ that would be difficult to find
“Excellent! Great line of speakers, good networking opportunity, fantastic
learning opportunity. The quality of the materials presented was higher than I
“It was a sacrifice for my wife and I to come. I’m glad that we did. We did
what we had to do to get where we want to be … Financial Independence!”
“The convention was great!! I’ll return next year with friends and family.”
“Outstanding! I’m new to this and the spectrum of speakers and topics is
what I needed. I’m ready to get rolling.”
–Scott A. Bell
“Extremely informative. Very well-rounded information covered more aspects
of real estate than I knew existed.”
“Fantastic, once again! Lots of positive energy with a common goal!
Everyone I spoke to had gotten at least one idea they could use immediately,
and were anxious to get back and put it into practice.”
“Excellent. Very well structured. The speakers were extremely constructive,
informative, personable and knowledgeable.”
“Great value! Exceptional. Life changing.”
“EXCELLENT!!! Great speakers with a tremendous amount of knowledge.
Fantastic networking opportunity with other R.E. investors. Terrific round
“Awesome! Great networking. Great information.”
“Well planned. The best creative real estate convention ever! I can’t wait until
the next one…”
–John Carlson (JohnBoy)
“I didn’t think the feeling I felt could be outdone from last year. But, as
always, everything gets better, especially the family relationships you develop
“Extremely informative and helpful - very enjoyable. Thank you for having this
“Where else can you get all the experts you need in one place? No where! All
the help and advice an investor need is right here at the CRE Online
Convention. Count me in for next year.”
Well… it’s just me and this post will get deleted but… - Posted by Mark (SDCA)
Posted by Mark (SDCA) on January 31, 2000 at 15:01:20:
I am not going as long as it is in Atlanta. (No offense to anyone there.) It’s just a big hassle and frankly, I would think that Vegas would be the natural place to have it. (I can see all the flames coming about if education being is too expensive, try ignorance and my never being a player with an attitude like that so that is fine, flame away…)
I think conventions can be useful for certain people, especially people who are looking for partners, people who need motivation and support to get started in deals. All that will be found at the convention. There will be some information but how much info can you really cram into a 90 minute speech? And all the speakers will be selling something. I would decide BEFORE you go what you will buy if anything. It is easy to get caught up in the hysteria and come home with 3 or 4 courses for real estate areas you have no interest in pursuing.
So… decide for yourself.