Posted by Dave Holls on July 15, 2002 at 24:47:23:
I saw this was reposted here, so I thought I would repost my thoughts here as well.
LOL. My goodness. Boy was I in for a surprise when I happened to just pop in and check out the board tonight. I think you have enough energy for the entire board. Don’t get me wrong, that’s great, but reading your posts it seems like your only arguing with yourself. The responses you have gotten were not that bad - believe me, I have been visiting this site for years.
Now, I don’t know you. I can only take you at your word. But I do have a few comments to make, some suggestions, and a lot of questions.
To start I will tell you just a little about myself. I have been visintg this site, on and off, for I believe about 5 years. I have only been really participating for the last 1 1/2 years. I am a Realtor. I got my license when I was 19. I have been a Realtor for 5 years now. Making your own business is tough. During that time, I have dedicated myself to learning everything I could about my industry. Taking the classes, reading the books, sorting the truth and facts from the myth and lies. But even as I was doing that I still needed money. So I worked other jobs - usually overnight jobs that didn’t conflict with my business (delivering papers, security, wharehouse, cleaning, etc.) I still needed to eat and pay my bills. To make a long story short - I have begun to make the turn as far as my Realtor profession is concerned.
During this same time I have begun my own second business investing in real estate. Being in the industry, I realize the unboundless potential of being involved, rather than just assisting others. So along with everything else, I have worked on this seperate business and have also begun to make the turn.
As far as goals, I am with you man. Let me tell, I have no problem believing your goals, because mine are ten times as high. I have goals that I can’t tell anyone about because of their sheer unbelievability. I have about 10 different business that I plan to open in my area. All of them are completely viable, will be succesful, have a demand and no competition. I have revelutionary plans for my Realtor business, along with my Broker to quadrupal our production in one year. I have unbelievable plans for investing in the local real estate market and tying them in with my other business - and I’m talking about billion dollar complete projects. Can all of these things be done? YES. Can I actually do them? YES. Will I do them? OH YES!
What’s stopping me. Nothing, but I realize I have to do 1 thing at a time. Or at the very least do things in the proper order. Like I said I am already planning for billion dollar business plans - but I know that they will come out of million dollar plans - which will come from hundred thousand dollar plans - which will come from thousand dollar plans. Now you can, as I am planning on doing, do multiple plans at once to get there faster - but you still must do things in order.
To date I have completed Zero real estate investments. The first one that I am close to wrapping up is a 30+ unit apartment building at over $500,000. Yes, my first! So believe me, I understand you talking about not just starting out small because that’s what everyone does. In fact I have talked with Ed Garcia about this deal (By the way Ed, if you read this I will be contacting you extremely soon). You may ask him if you like. You talk about creative ideas, I talked with Ed about an idea he had never used before and he’s been doing this for as long as I’ve been alive. So believe me when I say I DO know where you are coming from.
But, but, but, but, but…everything must happen in order. Now, that order can, and usually is, different for everybody. So nowbodys way is the only way. But there are some constants. You have to eat and maintain your life. And you have to be able to supplement you business with income to make it grow. Now if you only took scrap jobs to earn just enough - fine. But you will need something.
Now, lets talk about your post. If you are willing, I would love to hear about your plans, ideas, thoughts, whatever. I certainly won’t shoot anything down. And in case you’re worried, I am in the Metro Detroit area - not in you area 
First, I can tell that reading these books and listening to these speakers has got your head in the clouds. TRUST ME…I have heard them all. They all speak to the Realtor industry, and there are even some who ONLY speak to the Realtor industry. I know how they operate and how they get there connection with the audience. I know you won’t believe it, but you have your blinders on and are going 100 MPH in circles! That is the plain truth. It is entirely clear from your posts. Now bear with me, I am not trying to put you down, but I have to be honest with you.
I mean I want to talk about some of the things you posted by you fly through about 20 different business and they all run together, and you are saying some incredible things. I don’t even know where to begin. Lets start here - you say you are willing to lose everything you have, including the roof over your head to achieve your goals. This is obviously the work of motivational speakers. You may think you have found the light in your life, but listen to that statement. You know, sometimes the roof over your head IS what you need to achieve your goals. But you are just willing to throw it away. You don’t know what you may need, you haven’t even started yet. Motivational speakers operate the way they do to motivate you. Yes they say if you’re not happy with your life just change it. They are motivating you to change. If they said, well don’t watch as much TV, would that motivate anyone - no. They have to be over the top to capture your imagination and make you think you can change. But boy, you sure took every word they said and ran with it. You don’t have to be destitute to be succesful.
Think of it this way, how long could you go on like this. Don’t you think it would be a problem if you went in to present a business proposal and your pants are torn, your shoes have holes and your shirt is filthy - and you can’t fix any of those problems because you have $0.00. Who in their right mind would even listen to you. You must remember, and believe me I hate this myself, but until you are in a position to have something other people want (money, succesful business, track record, etc.) you are at the mercy of others. You must play by their rules. Now there are ways to make them think you are playing by their rules, but really be serving your own ends. But that doesn’t mean you can shun the world and still make it.
Now, here is something I don’t understand. You say you have no money and done no deals. But in this post you say in your first 4 days you turned 80k in PROFITS. What is this you’re talking about. Then you go on to say, you just let it fall apart so you could concentrate on getting funding. Now seriously, I hope you left something out of this sentence, like a few paragrpahs, because this sentance alone temptes me to disbelieve everything you have written.
Towards the end you say you had a way to make you auto shop an extra 15 million in profits a year, but they wouldn’t listen to you. Again, I hope you left a lot out. First of all what kind of “auto shop” makes millions in PROFITS to begin with. If hope this is some incredibly niche, high end auto shop. And how could they be operating in such a way as to be missing out on millions more. This is frankly unbelievable, and especially if all else is true, that they wouldn’t listen to you. I WANT to believe you, but there just has to be more info.
There is so much more I would love to talk about. There is just so much I can’t even comment on it all. It is getting late here, so I have to get going. I may not have been as accurate or explained myself the best, so please don’t jump to any conclusions. I have been rushing trying to get this out. If you would like a better explanation on anything just ask. Again, I AM NOT TRYING TO STOP YOU, OR PUT YOU DOWN, OR CHANGE YOU!!! But come on, you need to tone down just a bit and see the forest for the trees. I’m sure you will respond, and I look forward to talking with you. Maybe tommorrow I can continue and better express my thoughts. Keep on working towards your goals.