Re: Ther Real Story… - Posted by Ed Garcia
Posted by Ed Garcia on February 10, 2000 at 10:45:04:
You never even called me. I had heard that you were troubled about my image being hurt
in that exchange, as a matter of fact you did call me but never let me know how you felt.
We just talked about the mobile home in San Bernardino.
I thank you for this post to try to defend me, it just shows what kind of guy you are.
I have to admit that series of post got out of hand, and if you didn’t follow each one in
sequence, the exchange was very believable. It was meant to be believable.
Before I tell you what really happened, I want everybody to know that there are two sides
to every story, and each side can have validity. That’s why when I was defending the
other side it was so believable.
Another thing I like you folks to know was that the exchange between me and Mr. Alcorn
was real. I have since called and apologized to Ray, because I know he had no idea of
what I was doing just like most of you. The only one that knew what was happening was
me and that old cagey cat that goes by the name of JPiper.
And speaking of Piper, if ever you see me and Mr. Piper go through an exchange, know
up front it’s for fun.
Phil Fernandez, who I think usually is in tune with my thinking and style, had asked me,
Ed what are you smoking.
Here is my answer to Phil, and now to you.
I started out answering David’s post about mentoring. The subject matter was mentoring.
David’s concern was, is the guy who supposedly is going to be his mentor trust worthy.
I could tell that the guy who was suppose to mentor David had another itinerary. This guy
was not an investor if you take notice.
I tell David in my post,
This guy is not just trying to mentor you. If he were, he would have not told you to
forget about lease options. This guy is willing to teach you the business from his stand
point, and use you to as an employee.
His stand point: Is what I call a MOOCH KILLER.
Now Phil, A Mooch Killer, is a term that’s been around for at least 33 years that I know of.
It’s an old finance term referencing sales people taking advantage of and targeting people
who would normally not be able to qualify for a loan. The slanderous term Mooch if you look
it up in the dictionary means to get things with out paying. To mooch a cigarette. There are
other definitions, but you’ve got the idea.
At this point, David strikes me as someone who is trying to learn the business, and may be
a little naive due to lack of experience. I could tell that he didn’t trust his so called new
mentor, and that’s why he was coming to us for help. This was later confirmed if you read
the post that David posted later today. As a matter of fact the part where I referred to the guy
who was going to mentor David as a SLIM BAG, was also confirmed in David’s second
When I’m talking in the post that you’re referencing. I’m talking to David, knowing that
this is all new to him.
I think much to much was made out of the negative comments that I made when taken
out of context.
For starters, this guy is not a investor like us.
This whole string is a Jim Piper fluke.
It started out with me answering a posting that David posted trying to make him aware
of that, even with aggressive sales people who may not be honorable, that a lesson can
still be learned.
And more or less, rather than be afraid of them, learn from them, and pick their brain.
Jim Piper, pick up on the negative aspect of my posting and ran with it.
Piper saw the posting, took the information out of context and attacked me.
Piper knew once I take a stance I won’t back down. I on the other hand, realizing what Jim
was doing to me and decided to take the stance that Jim dealt me and support it just for fun.
I’ll tell you Phil, it’s not easy dodging bullets from everybody when your taking the side of
an issue that you don’t even believe in. I knew I was going against the grain and fighting a
unpopular position, but I didn’t care. For people like yourself who have seen me on this
site for the past 2 ½ years you should have known something was up. That certainly not the
Ed Garcia that you know.
I gave it my best shot Phil, and 2 times challenged Piper and tried to get him to trade sides
with me. But he wouldn’t do it.( the rat) If you follow the post, you can see where I called Piper
out and realize what he is doing to me.
Once Piper challenged me, on my answering post I said to him,
Well Mr. Piper, I think I touched a nerve.
Now Jim, you know what I think of you, and so with that in mind I want you to know
that this posting is not about you. I also know that you’ve been dying, I repeat dying,
to get into a verbal exchange with me and you know it. Even though were the best
of friends, you know you’ve been waiting for me. Just wanting to get a piece of old
Garcia. Piper you love a good go around, and I stimulate you because you know I’m a
worthy opponent. You’re an old warrior with out a battle. I can see the smile on your face
as you’re are reading this.
So with that in mind, I say lets get it on.
When I talked to Jim by phone, he said that when he saw the above statement, he had to call
his wife Concetta, over to the computer and said, look Concetta, Ed knows what I’m doing.
As a matter of fact, Piper even confirmed the smile on his face at the time this was happening.
He also confessed that he had been waiting for the right moment to ambush me.
The bad part of this is, I don’t think Jim is satisfied doing this just once.
Mean while I’m considering joining a convent.
But bottom line, is the whole thing was for fun Phil,